Ok so realistically this is not great pizza but its not awful. Its somewhere inbetween not caring enough to get over the hump but caring just enough to get the job done. I did have to take points off because i ordered two larges (one plain and one grandma) and each was the size of larger mans personal pie (the grandma didnt even fill the box). $40 for two pies is a rip off and i was greatly disappointed. Really sweet genuine people inside tho so i hope they figure it out because this just isnt gonna cut it.